Comments on: KDE4 reviewed http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/ 'cause this is what I do Sat, 19 May 2012 23:33:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Webman2000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-29338 Webman2000 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:59:32 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-29338 The concept is great, in fact KDE4 is the first windowing system of any that makes sense. The problem is it has alot of bugs. Sessions dont save, widgets always have to be reopened etc. But the concept of a non obtrusive desktop is hopefully finally arrived. I gave up on X Window apps because they just werent there, and switched finally to Mac. Loved Macs simpicity, and then found KDE4 and now I think my MacOS gui is child's play. KDE4 team has alot of fine tuning to do, but really, they have found the answer. Good job. The concept is great, in fact KDE4 is the first windowing system of any that makes sense. The problem is it has alot of bugs. Sessions dont save, widgets always have to be reopened etc. But the concept of a non obtrusive desktop is hopefully finally arrived. I gave up on X Window apps because they just werent there, and switched finally to Mac. Loved Macs simpicity, and then found KDE4 and now I think my MacOS gui is child’s play. KDE4 team has alot of fine tuning to do, but really, they have found the answer. Good job.

]]> By: Alex http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-941 Alex Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:36:57 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-941 I am a big fan of KDE, since I first installed linux. I installed KDE 4 only some days ago, and the truth is that although it is innovative it has still long way to go. First of all, I didn't like this only-widgets thing. It would be better if KDE kept some features of the previous version, like the panels, and of course the ability to customize them. Another thing I noticed (I am not sure about that, since I've been using KDE 4 for about 2 days now), is that you can't use some applications of the previous version of KDE. From my limited experience with the new KDE desktop I also found it more difficult to customize it's look and feel, and not in the same extend as the previous version. I am a big fan of KDE, since I first installed linux. I installed KDE 4 only some days ago, and the truth is that although it is innovative it has still long way to go. First of all, I didn’t like this only-widgets thing. It would be better if KDE kept some features of the previous version, like the panels, and of course the ability to customize them. Another thing I noticed (I am not sure about that, since I’ve been using KDE 4 for about 2 days now), is that you can’t use some applications of the previous version of KDE. From my limited experience with the new KDE desktop I also found it more difficult to customize it’s look and feel, and not in the same extend as the previous version.

]]> By: knifemonkey http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-372 knifemonkey Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:51:01 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-372 Kike, I believe you have to remove the kde4 config files. Kike, I believe you have to remove the kde4 config files.

]]> By: Kike http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Kike Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:43:56 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-147 Hi, do you know how to add icons in the task manager? By accident i deleted the KDE menu launcher, how can I restore it in the plasma bar? Thanks for any help.. Hi, do you know how to add icons in the task manager? By accident i deleted the KDE menu launcher, how can I restore it in the plasma bar?

Thanks for any help..

]]> By: Nicolas http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Nicolas Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:30:44 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-109 David, Anonymous: regarding the zoom button, I can only (just like every "normal" user) judge what I got in front of me, a day-by-day user won't check any source code to know whether the feature is standard. If a distribution ships a package which feature X enabled, an end-user interprets this as a standard feature of X. Anonymous: regarding the floppy thing, I'll check lshal and dmesg the next time I boot the VM. Stoffe: your words, not mine ;-) troll: actually, come check my hard drive performance. Even launching TWM in a simple X server using startx on a cold cache takes several seconds. On a hot cache it takes about 1s. Markus: I wanted this to be a fair review (I try never to be unfair, especially on things lots of people work on for fun). Great this was noticed, thanks a lot for the pleasant comment! David, Anonymous: regarding the zoom button, I can only (just like every “normal” user) judge what I got in front of me, a day-by-day user won’t check any source code to know whether the feature is standard. If a distribution ships a package which feature X enabled, an end-user interprets this as a standard feature of X.

Anonymous: regarding the floppy thing, I’ll check lshal and dmesg the next time I boot the VM.

Stoffe: your words, not mine ;-)

troll: actually, come check my hard drive performance. Even launching TWM in a simple X server using startx on a cold cache takes several seconds. On a hot cache it takes about 1s.

Markus: I wanted this to be a fair review (I try never to be unfair, especially on things lots of people work on for fun). Great this was noticed, thanks a lot for the pleasant comment!

]]> By: Markus http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Markus Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:07:40 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-106 It is noticable that you did your best to give a fair and unbiased review, and it worked out very well. Thanks for this feedback of yours! It is noticable that you did your best to give a fair and unbiased review, and it worked out very well. Thanks for this feedback of yours!

]]> By: troll http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-105 troll Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:47:02 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-105 Beautiful bootsplash? Bootsplashes as a concept are entirely broken. There is absolutely no sane reason why a software couldn't boot up fast enough so that you wouldn't have to entertain the end user while waiting for it. Beautiful bootsplash? Bootsplashes as a concept are entirely broken. There is absolutely no sane reason why a software couldn’t boot up fast enough so that you wouldn’t have to entertain the end user while waiting for it.

]]> By: Stoffe http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Stoffe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:15:48 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-103 KDE: All functions with no thought GNOME: All thought with no functions That's how it used to be. Now GNOME has most - but not all - the functionality, but KDE still has very little thought... that is my impression from KDE 4. And seeing all the excuses about how a major version number isn't meant for public consumtion etc etc etc etc etc etc, the KDE people know it too. KDE: All functions with no thought
GNOME: All thought with no functions

That’s how it used to be. Now GNOME has most – but not all – the functionality, but KDE still has very little thought… that is my impression from KDE 4. And seeing all the excuses about how a major version number isn’t meant for public consumtion etc etc etc etc etc etc, the KDE people know it too.

]]> By: Anonymous http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Anonymous Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:39:41 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-102 One additional note, to call this a "KDE 4.0 Review" when you're basically only looking at two of the changed pieces (plasma and system settings) is a joke. One additional note, to call this a “KDE 4.0 Review” when you’re basically only looking at two of the changed pieces (plasma and system settings) is a joke.

]]> By: Anonymous http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-101 Anonymous Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:37:30 +0000 http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/#comment-101 About menu categories and positions, that's usually completely defined by the distribution. openSUSE's KDE3 has a patch with collapsed sub-menus with a single entry to the higher hierarchy but that has not been ported to KDE4 packages yet. About the floppy menu entry, it is hardware dependent. It doesn't show up in my VMware nor on my laptop. Are you really sure that you didn't configure a floppy to exist or that VirtualBox is bug free? :-) About the zoomout button, that was unnoticed by the Plasma maintainer removed by someone before the release so it's not in the 4.0.0 tarballs. But it was restored afterwards in the 4.0 branch and the SUSE packages are contains post 4.0.0 branch updates so it shows up there. About menu categories and positions, that’s usually completely defined by the distribution. openSUSE’s KDE3 has a patch with collapsed sub-menus with a single entry to the higher hierarchy but that has not been ported to KDE4 packages yet.

About the floppy menu entry, it is hardware dependent. It doesn’t show up in my VMware nor on my laptop. Are you really sure that you didn’t configure a floppy to exist or that VirtualBox is bug free? :-)

About the zoomout button, that was unnoticed by the Plasma maintainer removed by someone before the release so it’s not in the 4.0.0 tarballs. But it was restored afterwards in the 4.0 branch and the SUSE packages are contains post 4.0.0 branch updates so it shows up there.

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